Anonymous

Bad bad baad

Not good. One “anonymous” person defending company. Must be the owner
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Guest

owner- slaves forever for nothing have back !!! we file complain to FTC.gov 202-326-**** & Consumer Protection office in Las Vegas 844-594-**** !!!

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And on top of it all, I noticed that this guy posted "anonymous"! What an idiot...

Guest

Not true at all! I have posted here a number of times "anonymously" and I am AN owner with TLC but not "THE" owner of TLC. It's people like you posting crap like this - assumptions and assertations that are not true and cannot be supported by fact who frustrate me to the point that I cannot sit back and be quiet!

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Anonymous

Terrible, lousy membership!

We tried numerous times to book a simple one week NYC stay for our anniversary. Not affordable, no jrlp, no luck! The only so called "deals" they offer are cruises abroad! We paid off total cost of mbrshp, in effort to close this terrible service, but they keep hounding us for an "annual fee" Granted,we never used the service, and wasted over $3,500.00 dollars!!
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Guest

You didn't try very hard.I just checked inventory in NYC through the Advantage side of my membership and you can get into the Manhatten Club about anytime you want to go for a fraction of what it would cost anyone else.If you got a membership for $3500 then you did great. Advantage alone is worth more than that.

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Anonymous,How do you know how hard they tried? Simply because you see inventory, doesn't mean that it was available for them to book through RCI for their specific dates and accommodations. It can be an arduous process.Perhaps, if you are a TLC Rep, you could assist them with booking rather than accusing them of not trying very hard?

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I am not a TLC rep, I am a TLC MEMBER. You too failed to read my post.

I CLEARLY stated that I checked inventory through the ADVANTAGE side of the program. Did you see me mention RCI in any portion of my post?Inventory through ADVANTAGE is AVAILABLE or it will not appear there! You simply find the week and the unit you want and click the big "SELECT" button over to the right of the week and it's yours. This 100% eliminates the "arduous process" that you refer to through RCI.

Go to the TLCResorts.com website. You will see TWO links there. One for Advantage and one for RCI. Log into Advantage and then search your "Quick Weeks" for NYC.

Any time you want to get there, it's right there for pennies on the dollar compared to any other way you could go to The Manhatten Club.I happen to agree with you about RCI, which is exactly the reason I bought through TLC to gain access to their Advantage program which solves 100% of the RCI issues you mention and also allows me to get my maintenance fees paid for the other timeshare mistake I made before I learned about TLC.Your reply to my post illustrates perfectly the problem with places like this that are dedicated to so-called complaints...

People do not read, just like you did not read my post. Rather than figuring out exactly what you bought and how it works, you come to a place like this to complain when in fact the complaint is unfounded.

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So right

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Astin Abp
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

Paid $9000 and RCI fee of $1200 and RCI told us TLC closed our RCI account

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I was informed by RCI that our account was cancelled by TLC (Fiore Las Vegas) resort! And that RCI would charge us a "reinstatement fee" to reactivate the account.

What is going on? We paid Fiore TLC around $9000+ for our RCI Platinum membership (and our first year's RCI maintenance Fee of around $1200) and now we can't access our RCI accout! The Fiore Travel Rep (name omitted), gave us inaccurate information regarding our ability to be reimbursed for our maintenance fees by Advantage Travel during his sales presentation at Fiore Travel in Las Vegas. Perhaps word got back to TLC from Advantage Travel that I complained about this Fiore Rep and either he or someone at TLC decided to cancel our RCI account in retribution?

I'm extremely angry and will go to any means necessary if this does not get resolved to my satisfaction very soon. Worst case I expect to have access to the RCI account that we paid for in full. Best case, provide us with a complete refund of all moneys paid to TLC and RCI for this account and cancel everything. It has been nothing but a hassle for us to attempt to be reimbursed only a portion of our maintenance fee for one or our resorts and zero for the second resort.

We were told by the Fiore Rep that we would be able to be reimbursed for the full amount for both resorts. This is the only reason we agreed to purchase-in hopes that in 9 years we would recoup the $9000 paid to TLC.

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$10500
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Guest

same with us but slaves forever as a members!!! we file complain to FTC.gov 202-326-**** & Consumer Protection office on Las Vegas 844-594-****

Guest

I purchased in Orlando and I worked with a man there named Andy Richards. He explained EVERYTHING to me, including the fact that some people have complaints about TLC.

Reading these complaints and I believe the vast majority of these have nothing to do with the program its self. Most of this sounds like simple clerical errors or misunderstandings.As far as not being able to reach anyone, I have already tested that and I have never had a problem reaching TLC customer service at 866.515.0894.

I simply do not believe that no one can be reached to resolve these problems. Andy also gave me his cell phone number and has returned my calls every time I have text him.

Guest

Why not complain about Fiore then instead of TLC? It kills me seeing these posts about TLC and maintenance fees.

TLC does not have a maintenance fee. It is not a timeshare.Further, RCI membership is initially $298 for the first year and only $179 per year after that if you choose to remain a Platinum member.

Guest

dummies! read the contract before signing lol who does reckless spending like this then gets mad at the company! next time be smart stupid!

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I have to agree! There was absolutely nothing "hidden" in the paperwork I signed.

I bought in Orlando and everything was explained to me throughly. There is a guy there named Andy that took the time to explain everything to us, and I mean everything.

He even gave us his personal contact info in case we had questions. I could not ask for more.

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That is a very unkind comment. Do you work for Fiore or TLC?We read the contract and all was fine until RCI told us that TLC cancelled our membership that we had paid for (per our contract)!We were also given the personal phone number of our Fiore rep but he wouldn't return our calls.

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That is a very unkind comment. Do you work for Fiore or TLC?We read the contract and all was fine until RCI told us that TLC cancelled our membership that we had paid for (per our contract)!We were also given the personal phone number of our Fiore rep but he wouldn't return our calls.

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You need to report them to the Federal Trade Commission 1-20*-***-****. We reported them last night. They told us to call the Consumer Protection Office in Las Vegas as well 1-84*-***-****

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Thank you! I'll do that.

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We are having the same experience. Calling today to try to get answers. Our account was also cancelled but they continue to take out fees.

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Anonymous

Fraudulent company

We are out over $10000 and they had Meridian Financial Services contacting me by letter and phone wanting to pay my yearly fee. I provided proof that TLC sold our 'property' to someone else.

Never heard from them again. Contacted lawyer to see what my options are. The Nevada Attorney General's office contacted me years ago that they were going to shut TLC down. Letter from them last year that they were not proceeding and put the 'ball back in my court'.

We weren't buying from them but we had a timeshare we were trying to get rid of...they would take the timeshare if we bought into their propaganda.

That's how we got sucked in.

We have WorldMark and use it regularly. Will not be sucked into again.

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Guest

I have successfully used TLC's Credit Conversion option more than once. They didn't take ownership of my timeshare from me, but they pay my maintenance fees any year I don't use it.

This has been a lifesaver for me.

Maintenance fees make most timeshares unusable eventually. I love my TLC package.

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Mike,I am new to TLC and I am wondering exactly what was the process like to do this "credit conversion"? Did they pay the maintenance fee back to you directly?This was a big part of the reason we bought the program. I dealt with Andy in Orlando and he sold me on the advantage part of the program and the quick weeks.Any help is appreciated!

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Credit Conversion is found in the Advantage side of the program. You can do it online but we actually called the number for advantage off of the back of our membership card.The money is credited back into your Advantage account, but once it appears there you can actually have them send it to you in a check.

Alternatively, you could let it stay in your account and use it to take other vacations like the Quick Weeks you mentioned.The Quick Weeks were a big part of the reason we bought as well.

For what I was paying in maintenance fees for one week, I could get 4 - 8 weeks with TLC. It's an amazing deal.

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Christa H Qan
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

Horrible

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Scam. They were so disrespectful and hate children.
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Guest

I too had a terrible customer service experience with Fiore/TLC in Las Vegas. I kept my appointment with them despite having a migraine that day.

They refused to decrease the volume of their very loud music and acted very put out when I requested to sit outside in their patio area since it was more quiet out there.

They were just very rude and acted snobby like they were doing US a huge favor in accommodating us. They didn't seem to care at all that I was feeling so poorly throughout their very long presentation.

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Since you had a poor experience with Fiore, have you considered posting this about Fiore instead of TLC? Fiore and TLC are two separate companies. Your post sounds as if you are holding TLC responsible for the actions of Fiore.I also wonder why if you were feeling so horribly that you did not reschedule your appointment with them?

Guest

Thank you for such a detailed and thoughtful post! All of that detailed information you provided on exactly how you were scammed helps all of us to make a better-informed decision.

I can only imagine that a company that sells family vacations "hates kids". Do you think that there is any chance at all that the behavior of your kids had anything to do with the experience that you had? Again I am guessing because you give NO details.

It is a safe conclusion that the behavior of children is a direct reflection of the parents. I have kids too and they were provided with a dedicated kids area when we purchased with TLC.

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Great post Mike! I am tired of seeing crap like this too.

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Bob W Vhn
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

Got my money back...

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I agreed to join TLC and try it out during our Vegas vacation but after seeing all your reviews that night, i canceled the next day. I was very freaked out about my chances of getting the 9k back so we took a letter to the manager and mailed one to their address.

They told me they'd mail me a check but luckily, after 6 ish days, they credited my checking account back the entire amount. A couple suggestions: 1. The website https://www.sample-resignation-letters.com/how-to-write-a-timeshare-cancellation-letter-with-sample.html gives a good example of what to include in your letter so you are covered under the law. 2.

I hand delivered it, got the managers signature on my copy and also sent one copy by certified mail. It's probably over kill but my way does work haha. 3. I didn't take their loan for it so that might have helped my cause.

4. I gave the "free vacation" cards back when i hand delivered the letter.

I didn't want to give them any reason to screw me over. Best of luck dealing with them.

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Guest

Lucky YOU!!! we file complain to FTC.gov & Consumer Protection against this "company"

Guest

I am very curious. Do you shop at WalMart? Have you ever read their reviews?

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Excellent point! Walmart reviews are HORRIBLE, but the same people that post negatively continue to shop there.

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Mark,I'm wondering if you work for TLC?Many people who have purchased in Vegas have had terrible experiences with them.I'm glad if my review was one of those that helped prevent this person from losing their money and experiencing all of the difficulty we have while trying to get what we paid for (per our contract).

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Anonymous
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

SCAMMERS

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I was talked into coming to a meeting that was being held for locals. I was talked into getting a sampler package (thankfully) because I'm a single person and I don't know maybe they felt bad tricking a single mother of 3 out of too much money.

I was suppose to get a free trip for two with air included. (first I needed to pay a fee for each person of course) Never had a chance to use it because what they didn't was is that it needed to be used within 90 day... As for the sampler package that I paid for a year over 1200 for I never used. I had one week at $169 and 2 weeks at $250 each.

the cheaper week expired after one year...the other two are still available but there is never a week for the $249 any place I want to go...instead the prices are hicked up for them to get more money.!! I truly don't know what I paid for because everything has additional fees! Thia company should be ashamed!!

When I went back to the location since I live local in Las Vegas they are gone. I am sure somewhere scamming more people out of their hard earned money!

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Guest

same with us!!! We file complain to FTC.gov 202-326-**** & Consumer protection office in Las Vegas 844-594-****

Guest

I too received an incentive trip from my TLC purchase that included airfare, and you are absolutely INCORRECT in your statement. You had 90 days to REGISTER your certificate and that is clearly stated on the certificate itself.

Then you had18 months to actually take the trip. There was no "fee" at all. There was a one-time activation DEPOSIT that is refunded once you travel. There is a HUGE difference between a deposit and a fee!

The ONLY thing you pay to take the trip was the actual taxes and this too was fully disclosed on the certificate. I do not see how your inability to follow clearly written instructions and your failure to use what you purchased in the timeframe allotted is the fault of TLC.

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Great Post Mike! You can't fix stupid.These people want to come online and complain about things that are their own fault.

I used my free trip as well. It worked exactly as you explained and we had no issues.

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Anonymous
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

TLC Resorts - Review in Travel Agencies category from Las Vegas, Nevada

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Went to Vegas for the third time and somehow this time we were convinced to go to this {{REDACTED}}. Free money to gamble with, free show, free dinner all of it has some sort of catch to it. They get you in there and try to get you to pay over $16,000 for vacation advantages. Yeah- learned our lesson. We will never spend another minute of our vacation time to listen to *** lies. So next time one tries to stop you. Get away from them. They just want your money. Scammers & liars So thankful we didn’t give in to them. I think they even have people in 5here acting like they are buying these packages to. Are you feel like it must be a good deal. Part of their scam!!
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Preferred solution: To tell everyone these people suck and hope they leave vacationers alone let them enjoy. I told everyone I could while I was out there.

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Guest

Exactly how did they scam you? Exactly what did they lie to you about?

If you did not buy then how did you lose $200? If you felt like it must be a good deal but you did not buy it then how do you know if it was a good deal or not?

Guest
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Exactly! Thank you for posting that!

These people all want to cry foul yet they do not give any specifics about what their problem is. I just don't get it but I am glad to see some people are calling BS on these posts.Reading this crap, I am wondering if this is being done by a competitor because the TLC product is so much better than their product?

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Anonymous

HOW THEY LIE

when my husband & I got into to this they did not let us what it really was .. we have not been able to get what they Promised. And every time we call to talk to some one it is always a different story . Know one knows the right hand from the .I have kept notes from each phone call but they have no record of what i have said . when i ask to hear the recordings we get discontented. they also promised . us a cruise Never happened .so they are not holding up their end of the contract !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ernesto & Susanna Garcia
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Guest

You titled your post "HOW THEY LIE", but you never said how they lied. All you said is you couldn't get where you wanted to go. How does that equal a lie?

Anonymous
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

$399.00 would make a great vacation

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I went to visit Pawn Stars Gold & Silver Pawn, on the way out I filled out a card for a "free round-trip visit to Vegas". A few months later my wife received news that she had WON!

She just needed to pay $300.00 up front. (I knew I smelled a rotten Scam). A few months later we planned to go to a concert in Vegas so made reservations with TLC Resorts to attend a presentation, ostensibly to get our money back. We tried to get into a presentation on 9-1-17 but was not allowed to.

So we went the time/day we were scheduled. The room where they have the presentation is dark, so your ability to read documents is difficult. I was promised a vacation club membership for $50.00/month with $100.00 down and no dues until 10-02-2018. On 10-3-17 I noticed a debit for $399.00 by TLC.

I immediately tried to cancel by sending certified letters to TLC and RCI and was told I should have cancelled within 5 days. I now KNOW I will be paying $399.00 a year to TLC, RCI Points Membership fees of $298.00 a year, $54.56 a month to UAS & $118.64 a month to TLC. So instead of $50.00 a month I am paying $173.20 a month! I could have a great vacation on that alone.

Trying to get a vacation on their website is impossible within your time periods. A rip off!

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$299
Pros:
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  • Dishonesty
  • Fraud
  • Fraudulent
Reason of review:
Not as described/ advertised

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Guest

So you are stating that you did not read what you signed due to poor lighting, but you signed it anyway? You are paying $118 per month to TLC because you choose to finance your membership.

All you are left with is a $399 membership fee per year for access to UNLIMITED vacations, not "a nice vacation". Further, only the first year of RCI Platinum membership is $298. Platinum RCI membership after that is only $179 per year IF you choose to remain Platinum.

Your monthly payments of $118 will soon come to an end and ALL you are left with is $399 per year! How can anyone complain about that even if you didn't read what you signed?

Anonymous

DO NOT BE TALKED INTO BUYING, get gift and leave (Kissimmee,Fl)

Now latest sales pitch is vacation clubs, this one stating they sell timeshare liquidations. Pitch buy 40,000 of RCI Points for $16,995, can get 4 weeks vacation using 10,000 pts each at discount exchange prices . But their presentation is a website that who knows who developed. They have a catalog with their logo on covers yet it is exact match for a real RCI Points Catalog..Do not believe you will get a week for 10,000 pts where and when you want to go. 10,000 pts or less is a limited supply AND last minute unused inventory..Can you vacation NOW kind of thing. We have owned deeded weeks timeshare since 1996, and a small Points pkg since 2003. We NEVER use Points anymore. If you use pts and have a short stay resorts charge you a housekeeping fee separately. Have not used any Points since 2003.. Good luck, timeshare is good buy Deeded weeks on secondary market try sellmytimeshares or timesharesonly and even EBay BUT get a good closing company at a reasonable price.
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To advise ANYONE to buy deeded timeshare is INSANE! If you own a deed you are 100% STUCK with ever increasing maintenance fees and special assessments.

A quick search of the websites you mention and eBay proves this! Why do you think anyone would sell a deeded week they paid thousands of dollars into for $1? Yes, ONE DOLLAR! The answer is simple!

They are STUCK with a maintenance fee they cannot afford and they are willing to give it away to make it someone else's problem.CLEARLY, you are VERY misinformed about points and exactly why Vacation Clubs are the solution to the problem that IS "time share". A quick phone call to RCI and you would have learned TLC is one of a very few companies allowed to private label the RCI catalog! There is a reason for that!I agree with you about the importance of points in general, but ANY weeks resort in RCI can be booked for 10,000 points or less any time of the year when you book 30 days or less! Many resorts require 10,000 points or less no matter when you book them.TLC's program is one of if not the best programs out there for people that vacation.

You simply do not understand it. TLC members have access to unlimited vacations every year for pennies on the dollar, and many of those vacations have nothing to do with RCI!

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AWESOME Post! Deeded timeshare is the base of all of the problems in the timeshare industry.

The bottom line is that eventually all maintenance fees become unaffordable and people eventually lose their weeks to foreclosure. For RCI to print the RCI Catalog "Private Labeled" for TLC Resorts is a huge statement as to the credibility of TLC Resorts!

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Anonymous

Timeshare Liquidators - Review in Hotels and Resorts category

Please please please do not fall for this company because you will immediately regret it!!! Customer Service rude & never available, finance will send you to collections and try to ruin your credit.

Went into the corporate office to speak with someone and it smelt like a pot farm & I ran into one of their employees who was visually under the influence of alcohol and just plain drunk and this was corporate.

I had to obtain a lawyer & get out of my contract because tlc resorts made charges by mistake & blamed it on a computer error & I never received what was promised during are presentation . To sum it up this is an unstable company from sales, customer service right down to the people they employ to handle your financial information I got out with the help of an attoney so save your self the heartache...BEWARE!!!!

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Guest

Hi

Which attorneys did you use to get out of your contract?

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This company is a joke I was employed there briefly and they hire anyone. No leadership in the office, no room for growth or advancement unless your a favorite.

Work environment is unpredit able and dangerous which made me quit because of some of the employees life style which is acceptable at TLC Resorts .

I literally started to feel bad about what I was doing because it's so wrong to take advantage of consumers. As an ex employee I urged the public to do their homework on TLC Resorts before signing anything.

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Jayvien Tws
map-marker Collingwood, Ontario

NOT MAKING SENSE AT ALL

We have been into TLC, but are not very happy about it. We have been paying $140CAD on a monthly basis, that I don’t even know when it’s gonna be finished!

Plus we are paying annual fees! We are not really travelling every month. We only travel on a weekend. Plus the fact that we have our 20,000 points, we also have to pay for other stuffs in the hotel (housekeeping fees+) It wasn’t that much of a difference when we book it from Expedia, or other Travel portals, or even in the hotel’s website!

And one thing more, most of their accredited hotels are very far from the city! What good does it give?! Gosh! It’s a total Rip off!

I wanted to cancel my membership, but I already paid, less than $10K, and annually will be paying fees, in exchange of points. Even if I use the points, I had to pay exchange fees from RCI, and needed to pay housekeeping fees. I recently stayed in Georgian Bay, for 2nights. I have paid $80 CAD, and paid $55 for my housekeeping.

A total of $135. There were offers in the hotels site if not lesser, are even equal to what I have paid even if you won’t be a member of any vacation rentals.

So, what is the sense of paying the $10K but you still have to pay something. I don’t get it!!!

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Guest

You people don't know the difference between a scam and just not being happy. Not a scam at all

Guest

These people are TOTAL SCAM ARTISTS! Do not fall for their promises, unfortunately we got fought up in this only to find out every time we tried to use our points we didn't have enough really?

Then they lead you to believe they are part of RCI they are not but you pay a membership to them also then if you want to stay at one of their resorts you pay again plus use all your points.

In a nutshell 2500.00 plus 89.00 a month 18% interest and was never able to go anywhere. Every time I called got the runaround or hung up on so finally I said that's it I'm not paying they sent me to collections.

This company is useless and hope people quit falling for their lies

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I have to chime in here because your post is so TOTALLY wrong!You say TLC is not part of RCI but then you go on to say when you go to one of their resorts you use all of your points. Your points are RCI points.

If they are not part of RCI then how could you have used your points at all?You also say you did not have enough points. That is IMPOSSIBLE! Any member of TLC has access to UNLIMITED points for only two cents per point! There is no such thing as not having enough points with TLC!

Their program solves that problem.The TLC program works 100% of the time but you have to understand what you own and exactly how to use it. A small dose of common sense is in order as well.

Guest

You will never get it because even if you sit down with someone you will be fed the same BS they sold you when you signed up. SORRY THEY ARE A SCAM

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You will never get it because you are told the same thing again? So you are saying that you would feel better if you were told something different?

You do not know how to use what you bought, you do not want to invest the time to clear it up, so it is a scam. Interesting logic.

Guest

Sounds like you just need to sit down with someone and go over how to properly use the membership

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A Men! These people amaze me!

Over 100,000 members in this program and these very few have a problem. That says it all right there. I am glad to see a few people stepping up to set the facts straight.

TLC is NOT a scam. These people simply need to understand the details of the program.

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I kind of fee the same way

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Anonymous
map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

TLC Timeshare Liquidators Las Vegas and RCI; Not a "scam"!

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Brandon: On your video, you must compare your two Puerto Vallarta vacations equally. The Expedia price is for SIX nights in a HOTEL ROOM. The total cost with air was $3412 for 6 nts, (3412/6 = $568.66 nite X 7 nights =$3980.66.

The RCI resort's All-inclusive fees per person your red arrow is pointing at is for a completely different time of year AND totally different room size compared to Expedia's deal! The actual fees for the same dates your Expedia vacation were only $120 per adult per day X 7 = $1680.

That's for a studio, not a dinky hotel room!

Let's say the airfare was the same since there's no way to find out otherwise at this point. RCI exchange/booking fee for 7+ nts is $169. $169+$900 air + $1680 = $2749.

That's a savings of $1231 on one vacation alone, and it's for a larger villa and not just a hotel room.

Present day, using the same exact resort, air, vacation dates and room sizes:

(PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT AIRFARE IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND PRICES DEPEND ON COUNTLESS VARIABLES NO MATTER WHO YOU BOOK IT THROUGH.)

EXPEDIA:

Feb 20-27, 2016

United Airlines, Spokane-PV R/T 2 adults

$930.

Delta, Spokane-PV, cheapest on Expedia:

$792

Plus:

Hotel suite: $438/nt ($3066)

2 bedrm: $876/nt ($6924)

Best price @Expedia:

Bundled with Air and room, 2 adults:

1 bedrm $3035 (and up)

2 bedrm $5281

RCI:

Feb 20-27

United Airlines, Spokane-PV R/T 2 adults

$656. ($274 cheaper than Exp for United, $136 less than Exp's cheapest rate on Delta)

Using your Points:

9,000 pts

$169 booking fee, flat rate for 7+ nts, any size villa

All-incl fees:

1 bdrm ($1680/ 7 nts, 2 adults)

2 OR 3 bdrm ($2380/7 nts, 2 adults)

TOTAL w/air and RCI booking fee:

$2505. for a 1 bedrm

$3205 for a 2 or 3 bedrm

You will have 11,000 points leftover. Example: Use 7500 points + $169 for 7 nts in Las Vegas not at 45 yr old Plaza hotel, but at the Hilton GVC in a studio or 1 bedrm, or at The Grandview in a 1 bedroom, full kitchen, sleeps 4, or a 2 bdrm sleeps 8. Both are gorgeous, Gold Crown Resorts. Roll the 3500 over to next year and you'll have 23,500 for 2017. Or roll 11000 over to 2017 for 31000.

How to have OPM cover those pesky fees: I booked a week for my neighbors last Feb over Valentine's Day in a 2 bedrm Gold Crown resort in S. Lake Tahoe. With the Guest Pass it cost me $308, no points. The best rate they found online was over $2k. They paid me $1600. That's how I cover fees.

The Washington coast in the summer can sometime be hard to book, but it can be done if you look for openings starting 60 days out and last minute, AND have RCI do an ongoing search for you. Remember, Platinum members get priority access.

Be persistent: you will get in.

(If hotel rooms are your thing, RCI has hotel deals everywhere, incl WA, and their rates are guaranteed.)

There aren't a lot of resorts on the WA coast (unlike most other coastal vacation destinations around the world), and a lot of people who own at those resorts in WA are local and they don't exchange out -they bought there to vacation there every year, and if you're limited to one destination in peak season that makes it harder. You can always use all your points for a week there, booking farther out, and you can even borrow pts from next year, or rent some points for only two cents a pt if you need more.

Face it... you only have 20,000 points so that's not a lot if you want more selections and options. Your best usage is searching for the 7 nights at 0-10000 points or less. There's always a lot of great vacations available, all-incl and not-inclusive. But you only paid $5k and your maint. fee is fixed forever. Buying 20k pts from a Developer at retail prices plus a MF that increases every year is how most people do it. You can get 2+ wks of vacations every yr forever using those pts and you won't pay an arm n leg in rent for a week or more in drop dead gorgeous knock your socks off resorts. And one day when you've decided to burn the luggage and snooze in the rocking chair all day, you can give it to your daughter and her family and she can also get those vacations too.

20k pts a year is like a "starter" program for some people, but if you work it right it might be the perfect amount for you. You also have at least one Bonus wk that can be booked up to a yr in advance; you have Last Call weeks, extra vacations, cruises on ships and even private-type yacht cruises, and TLC's MF's are FIXED for life which is unheard of.

There's a good reason why there's almost 4 mil RCI members, why they've been in business since 1974, why companies such as Hilton, Sheraton, Westin, Disney, etc etc etc are with them, and why more are added on every year and why it keeps growing and hasn't let up! Think about it!

You have a good, very useable program. Just start using it and you'll see!

Husband has owned since '91, me since '01. We take a lot of vacations every year and we have been to some amazing places, stayed in some incredible resorts, and we have saved a fortune by doing it this way! We aren't always crazy about staying at the mandatory all inclusive resorts; we feel we save more money without the fees. For us, those are the more luxurious vacations that we will take every three to four yrs. for a special occasion. There's a couple AI resorts in the Riviera Maya area we love. High dollar but worth it (and we still pay a lot less than we would pay through Expedia or Costco!)

Hope this helps you and anyone else having issues.

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BRAVO!!!! Excellent and most well-explained post yet!

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How long are your "membership terms"

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My fiance and I went to Vegas in May 2016 on a mini vacation. While walking down Fremont St they approached us to go to a presentation. We agreed just for the free show tickets and dinner vouchers. We went to the plaza hotel for the presentation. While listening to the sales pitch. The lady only mentioned $399 a year fee to get 10,000 points. It was not mentioned about the lump sum needed of almost $13,000 in addition to the yearly fee. When we said no, another guy came to our table to give us a "better deal". When we continued to refuse he got mad, slammed the papers down on the table and pushed the table as he got up to leave, with not a word. Then another guy comes over to give us a new "deal" .we refused it again, more so because of how the second guy treated us. We got our tickets and vouchers including a voucher for a 2 night stay at the Plaza. Reading the fine print on each one there were catches. None of it was going to be "free". Don't waste your time. When i calculated how much they wanted us to give them and compared that cost to the vacations we plan on doing over the next few years, we would spend less then $13,000 total without extra $399 a year. So where are the real savings?
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10,000 points does not cost anywhere near the 13,000 you are spouting. Try being truthful.

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Thank you for reading my mind! I hate the bad information on here!

They could have purchased 100,000 points for $13,000 if they had wanted to. Perhaps they were negotiating 10,000 points because they were vacationing very little.

I do hate they felt disrespected but I know for a fact the TLC program does work and it works well. Especially for people vacationing a lot.

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This TLC Resorts Vacation Club is really a big fraud, i was trapped with their convincing power, i was convinced by the older people who looks really can be trusted with their words. but i have a very bad experience with this TLC.

I was told that the memberships dues will not the taken if you did not went for a vacation and for sure have not used any of their property hotel or condo. i was able to pay the RCI Points Membership fee of $298, closing cost of $797 and another 2015 Member dues of $824, so total they got from me $1886 plus 4 months mostly payment of $127.22. I just paid the membership due on July 2015 and by Nov 2015 they give me a bill for 2016 member dues of 824. iI was shocked because i never went for a vacation yet.

I was so mad and called them, and they denied saying that. So those respectable looking people i was talking and said those words to us didn't know what they were saying or just to let one get into their program has to give those promises. I stopped paying because it does't make sense to me. i'm wasting my money, when i can save it and go for any place with less price and no monthly obligation.

because i tried to get a hotel in LA but they choose place which is so far from where i want to be. It is useless, so book on my own. They sent to collection, ruined my credit, but my stand is, what am i paying them for they got my money I didn't get anything from them. It was these people who did not not follow what they said in that presentation, that made me stop paying.

I can't get out from them, they ruined my credit record because i was so mad and i thought useless paying them when I'm not planning to use that TLC anyway. My advice to anyone who is planning to get this TLC, better think a 100 times, they are not good at all.

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Why did you buy it if you had no plans or intentions to use it?You mentioned you tried to get a hotel but it was too far away from where you wanted to be. First of all, the program is about Resorts, not hotels.

However, their hotel booking engine is second to none! I save hundreds of dollars per year just on the hotel booking engine alone, so I can tell you that they do NOT "pick your hotel".

You pick the hotel and book it yourself. If it was too far away, pick another location!

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Very similiar situation happened to my boyfriend and I, except they were so good at convincing us even knowingly we could not afford this. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get out of this.

Don't get trapped. Better yet, do not go to presentation.

Nothing is free in Las Vegas. Everything comes with a price.

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So you were convinced at the time, but not convinced now. So instead of figuring out how to use it to it's fullest potential since you made the commitment, you would rather figure out how to get out of it.Why do you not reconsider the reasons you bought it and try to figure out how to make it work for you.

Were you forced to go to the presentation or did you decide to do that on your own?Everything in the world that involves travel comes with a price. TLC is nothing more than a cost-effective way to cut that price way down for those willing to educate themselves about the program.

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